Kashmir is a disputed territory mainly between Pakistan and India. However India forcefully occupied most part of Kashmir. The term forcefully can easily be understood by the number of Indian army troops that are deployed more than 600 thousand in this state. These troops are an authority themselves, They are Police, They are lawyers, They are Courts and they are judges. They don’t need to bring any solid proof before going for a worst action against civilians. They can kill a civilian anytime without any reason. They can enter any house day or night and grab the women outside. Kashmiri freedom fighters are struggling from more than 60 years to free Kashmir from Indian occupancy. But India always got an excuse to stay there. The emotions of Kashmiris can be seen easily in following footage. They want India to go back from where it came. International community and United Nations can play a vital role to solve this dispute but they are also not taking this matter seriously. I don’t think the actions by Indian forces can be pronounced anything else than Terrorism on civilians. According to news more than 26 civilians killed in last week. What a shame for all who can speak but still they are silent.
Women Shout Anti-India Slogans During A Protest In Srinagar
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Women shout anti-India slogans during a protest in Srinagar August 5, 2010. India faces a full-blown separatist uprising in Kashmir that may sink hopes for peace in the strategic region as disaffected Muslim youth rebel against a government seen as leaderless, complacent and out of touch. REUTERS/Fayaz Kabli (INDIAN-ADMINISTERD KASHMIR)
Kashmiri People Carry A Wounded Man From An Ambulance
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Kashmiri people carry a wounded man from an ambulance outside a hospital in Srinagar August 5, 2010. India faces a full-blown separatist uprising in Kashmir that may sink hopes for peace in the strategic region as disaffected Muslim youth rebel against a government seen as leaderless, complacent and out of touch. The man was wounded when Indian police opened fire at an anti-India protest in Pampore, on the outskirts of Srinagar, people accompanying the wounded man said. REUTERS/Danish Ismail (INDIAN-ADMINISTERD KASHMIR)
People Load The Body Of A Kashmiri Man
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People load the body of a Kashmiri man, Shabir Ahmad, into an ambulance outside a hospital to be returned to his relatives, in Srinagar August 5, 2010. India faces a full-blown separatist uprising in Kashmir that may sink hopes for peace in the strategic region as disaffected Muslim youth rebel against a government seen as leaderless, complacent and out of touch. Ahmad died in hospital after he was shot at by Indian police during an anti-India protest in Pulwama, south of Srinagar, people accompanying Ahmad said. REUTERS/Danish Ismail (INDIAN-ADMINISTERD KASHMIR)
Men Carry Body Of Kashmiri Youth During His Funeral In Srinagar
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Men carry the body of Mohammad Iqbal, a Kashmiri youth, during his funeral in Srinagar August 4, 2010. Kashmiri separatist leaders have appealed for calm in the biggest anti-India protests in two years that have killed dozens of people and raised fears that anger at New Delhi was spinning out of control. At least four people died on Tuesday in fresh clashes with police, raising the death toll of seven weeks of protests to 43. Iqbal died in a hospital on Wednesday after he was shot at by Indian police on July 30, a relative of Iqbal said. REUTERS/Fayaz Kabli (INDIAN-ADMINISTERD KASHMIR)
Women Cry During The Funeral Of Mohammad Iqbal In Srinagar
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Women cry during the funeral of Mohammad Iqbal, a Kashmiri youth, in Srinagar August 4, 2010. Kashmiri separatist leaders have appealed for calm in the biggest anti-India protests in two years that have killed dozens of people and raised fears that anger at New Delhi was spinning out of control. At least four people died on Tuesday in fresh clashes with police, raising the death toll of seven weeks of protests to 43. Iqbal died in a hospital on Wednesday after he was shot at by Indian police on July 30, a relative of Iqbal said. REUTERS/Fayaz Kabli (INDIAN-ADMINISTERD KASHMIR
Men Shout Anti-India Slogans During The Funeral Of Mohammad Iqbal
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Men shout anti-India slogans during the funeral of Mohammad Iqbal, a Kashmiri youth, in Srinagar August 4, 2010. Kashmiri separatist leaders have appealed for calm in the biggest anti-India protests in two years that have killed dozens of people and raised fears that anger at New Delhi was spinning out of control. At least four people died on Tuesday in fresh clashes with police, raising the death toll of seven weeks of protests to 43. Iqbal died in a hospital on Wednesday after he was shot at by Indian police on July 30, a relative of Iqbal said. REUTERS/Fayaz Kabli (INDIAN-ADMINISTERD KASHMIR)
Kashmiri Protesters Raise Their Arms During An Anti-Indian Protest In Khrew
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Kashmiri protesters raise their arms during an anti-Indian protest in Khrew, about 25 km (15 miles) south of Srinagar August 4, 2010. Kashmiri separatist leaders have appealed for calm in the biggest anti-India protests in two years that have killed dozens of people and raised fears that anger at New Delhi was spinning out of control. At least four people died on Tuesday in fresh clashes with police, raising the death toll of seven weeks of protests to 43. REUTERS/Sheikh Umar (INDIAN-ADMINISTERD KASHMIR)
Kashmiri Protesters Defying A Curfew Hold A Religious Flag During An Anti-India Protest
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Kashmiri protesters defying a curfew hold a religious flag during an anti-India protest outside a Sufi shrine in Srinagar August 3, 2010. The chief minister of Indian-controlled Kashmir flew to New Delhi on Monday calling for urgent reinforcements to end the worst anti-government violence in two years in which more than 30 people have died. At least eight people were killed and 80 wounded on Monday in clashes with police in different areas of the Himalayan region after protesters set fire to a police station, pelted security forces with stones and damaged a railway station, witnesses said. The flag reads There is no god but Allah and Mohammad is the messenger of Allah . REUTERS/Fayaz Kabli (INDIAN-ADMINISTERED KASHMIR)
Indian Policemen Detain A Kashmiri Man Suspected Of Throwing Stones
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Indian policemen detain a Kashmiri man suspected of throwing stones during a clash in Srinagar July 30, 2010. Violent clashes between Kashmiri protesters and Indian police broke out in many parts of Srinagar on Friday after Indian police opened fire on an earlier anti-India protest critically wounding two youth, protesters said. REUTERS/Fayaz Kabli (INDIAN-ADMINISTERED KASHMIR)
Indian Police Officer Fires Tear Gas During Clash With Kashmiri Protesters
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An Indian police officer fires tear gas during a clash with Kashmiri protesters after police stopped an anti-India protest in Srinagar July 1, 2010. India extended a curfew in parts of Kashmir and deployed thousands of troops on Thursday to quell huge anti-India protests in a region at the core of its dispute with nuclear-armed neighbour Pakistan. REUTERS/Fayaz Kabli (INDIAN-ADMINISTERED KASHMIR)
An Indian Policeman Patrols A Road Marked With Graffiti By Kashmiri Protesters
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An Indian policeman patrols a road marked with graffiti by Kashmiri protesters, during a curfew in Srinagar June 30, 2010. India extended a curfew in parts of Kashmir and deployed thousands of troops on Wednesday to quell huge anti-India protests in a region at the core of its dispute with nuclear-armed neighbour Pakistan. REUTERS/Fayaz Kabli (INDIAN-ADMINISTERD KASHMIR)
Kashmiri Women Cry During Funeral Of Youth In Srinagar
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Women cry during the funeral of Mohammad Rafiq Bangroo, a Kashmiri youth, in Srinagar June 20, 2010. A Kashmiri, Javid Ahmad Malla, was killed and six others injured in Srinagar on Sunday when Indian government forces fired bullets at thousands of angry demonstrators protesting over the killing of Bangroo by police, witnesses said. The violent protests broke out in Kashmir’s summer capital during the funeral procession of 24-year-old Bangroo, who died on in a hospital late on Saturday, days after being injured in a beating allegedly by paramilitary forces. REUTERS/Umar Ganie (INDIAN-ADMINISTERED KASHMIR)
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Over 300,000 Kashmiri Pandits have been rendered homeless by the Kashmiri terrorists…………. this will not go unpunished !
Those Kashmiri muslims, that are shouting against India, will eventually learn to leave as minorities under Indian constitution.
The Agents of Pakistan in Kashmir will be crushed with iron fist….. and some innocent Kashmiris will pay for the Pakistani evil in the name of Islam.
Unfortunately, a lot of worse is happening with the Baloch people …… Indian moral support for them will continue.
i think india is suffering severly due to pak activities they must be crushed as early as possible,first only india has lost rich & fertile region (lahore ,nankana sahib ,islamabad) this loss can be never fullfilled .pak says that people living in kashmir are mostly muslims like to this it will demand utter pardesh also where muslims are 80% of total population.which is not posible the people who are destroying peace must be thrown in pakistan.
for your kind information there was not even a single muslim in india .under the pressure of arab invaders many aryans were converte into muslims .other wise they were supposed to give heavy taxes to muslim rulers .if pak demands
for kashmir on the basis of relegion then tho india can also demand for lahore ,faislabad ,islamabad etc on the basis of language .
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Kashmiri pandits aren’t belong to kashmir, they have been migrated from India, just to promote hinduism.
Why do they accept Indian constitution when they don’t accept India or themselves as a PART of India.
India is doing stupid things against Pakistan so they too will get replies.
Indian official data say that less than 200 kashmiri pandit died in violence as against more than 70,000 kashmiri muslims .THOUSANDS muslims dis appeared in indian custody , thousands were maimed & thousands languish in indian jails without trial for years & thousands women were raped .ALL This because kashmiris demand that india fulfill the promise of right to self determination made by it in UN and an its first pm jawar lal nehru in lal chowk of srinagar .
While we deeply regret the killing of 200 pandit brothers ,it is unfortunate that some barbaric communal pandit people are deriving sadistic pleasure in killing of thousands of kashmiri muslims at the hands of indian forces .SHAME ON THESE .
We will GOD willing achieve freedom one day .THESE handFULL hindu savages better stay in india & lead a disgraceful life & feed on reservations & alms of biharis.
Rest of pandit brothers are welcome
Dr. Tariq
Welcome to the discussion and Thank you for great comment, I really appriciate it, I was feeling like alone here with this Indian guy who is always sending offensive comments.
If indian claims that populaton of kashmir want to stay with india then why dont they hold a referendum there .AFTER all democracy teaches us to respect the will of the people & india is a democracy .
India is afraid of the Referendum results. That will say in a clear cut way “Go India Go Back”
Thanks for participation in debate.
Kashmir is a disputed territory and India’s attitude is unrealistic. This is my sincere and honest belief. It is only for this reason that India is suffering due to its arrogant use of power. The extent of torture, killings and rapes perpetrated on Kashmiri people by Indian forces are already creating a new record of atrocities. Gouging of eyes, cutting off of men’s genitals, use of ever new methods of torture and endless curfews would shame Hitler’s SS death squads. The Indian occupation army’s deviltry such as gang-rapes, burning of entire villages and crops, destruction of economic life of whole communities and genocide of the Kashmiri people in defiance of international human rights laws, are everyday affairs. Indian authorities must accept the harsh reality that Kashmir is a disputed area and stop being stubborn. India would have to accept that Kashmir is a disputed State and only after that will a solution to the issue take place. At this moment it is very unfortunate that the Indian leadership and the Indian government are not accepting the hard facts that elections & relief packages will neither solve the Kashmir dispute, nor stop the killings in Kashmir. Packages & Relief-Beliefs are just mere eyewash, aimed at be-fooling international community with a deception that New Delhi is busy in the dialogue with Kashmiris. People should be able to express their opinions freely. The sacrifices of the people will never end in smoke and these sacrifices will take us to our goal. India has lost its credibility in Kashmir. The people have no faith in the promises of Indian leaders and the Indian government. No talks will be held with India until India accept Kashmir as disputed region, withdrawal of troops from civilian areas, release all political prisoners, repeal of draconian laws and stopping human rights violations.
Flatly saying such indo-zionist acts of killing young youth will not hamper us at all. We are meant to deal with them sternly to emancipate Kashmir from the clutches of Indian terrorists in uniform. Wholly & solely Indian government is responsible to impinge such butcheristic situation in Kashmir valley, had they followed the common peoples desire there would be peace & tranquility prevailing in the whole region but Alas! They follow there own rigid policies.
Regarding the kashmiri pandits they were never forced by Muslims of kashmir to leave valley infact they were befooled by that time governor Jagmohan to move to jammu as he plotted to kill all Kashmiri Muslims but Allah shattered his scheme. we always welcome pandits to reside again in kashmir. indian media is biased & so they always try to cajole & defame the unity of kashmiris but they should know that this is 10 million peoples movement & they cant shackle it even in their dreams. They call themselves demon-cratic & sick-u-liar country but they lack the bare bones of humanity.
Let us be very clear that we Kashmiris will take our holy cause to its logical end…
Kashmiris, after all, are human beings too. Then why these double standards? The international human rights organizations must take a serious note of the unabated human rights violations in Kashmir and killings of youths in particular.
–GO INDIA GO BACK–
Very beautiful explanation of the issue and very true representation of the facts. This shouldn’t be remain as comment. Would you mind If I post it as a Guest post from Arsh Qadri at my blog. Please let me know your answer.
TERROR HAS GONE OUT OF CONTROL IN KASHIMIR
sure we are meant to derail these Indians at each n every aspect…
GO INDIAN DOGS GO BACK- BACK TO HELL
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more than 40 % area of pak speak punjabi
more than 40 % area of pak speak punjabi punjab of india can demand for punjab of pakistan
@Jai
The partition that was done on 1947 was nicely discussed by that time and I think we should not discuss it anymore. It was right decession of that time.
Kashmir was not given to India that time but India forcefully put its forces into Kashmir and hold it. If UN don’t get involved in this Pakistani army will not stop at current Azad Kashmir border but take the hole area back up to China’s borders, It was UN who helped India holding part of Kashmir that is now called Occupied Kashmir.
If you are saying that Sub-continent doesn’t belong to any religion but to people who are living here then don’t worry about Lahore & Nankana, No-arabs are living there, The same people are living here whose forefathers were living here. Tomorrow if 90% Indian Hindus become Muslim then will you throw them into Indian ocean & give India to rest 10 % ?
& Do you want Hindus to forcefully remain Hindu ? If someone is impressed from true light (Islam) would you stop him from embracing Islam. Don’t do that. Let people use their brains & don’t impose your personal ideology.
Thank you for sharing your point of view.
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why not celebrate 14th aug as pak day we r in relation of blood and flesh with pak. we wish that same will be there .we pray for peace and development of pak.
Thank you imran for participation.
Well, I disagree with your viewpoint. offcourse i understand your sentiments as a true nationalist, you want to have Kashmir with you, while being an Indian, I want Kashmir to be with us. Both of us are true sons of the soil.
We will hold referendum in Kashmir, if there is referendum in Balochistan and also in NWFP 😉
Kashmir will be with Pak, Jammu and Ladhak will be with India, Baloch will be free and NWFP will be Talibanised or be with Afghanistan.
Not feasible under current situation is it ? or not popular even with the Pakistanis ?
Certainly not popular with the Indians 😉
But after the measly effort in flood reliefe, Pakistani govt is not in its best form is it to court disenchanted rebels from India to side with them ? Hopefully the reliefe aid money will not fall into the hands of the Talibans or the Lashkar toibas to bomb our cities and schools and bus stations etc. etc.
But offcourse we agree to disagree on Kashmir. atleast thats a start.
Lala rohit
Baluchistan is not cousin to India, why do you guyz worried about Baluchistan or NWFP, they are part of Pakistan from 1947 Partitions, It is Indians who helped Bengali to destroy Pakistan’s part and make it Bangladesh. Now you people want Baluchistan and NWFP to be separated too, That’s 100 % enmity to Pakistan.
Kashimir is different as compared to Baluchistan, It is a disputed territory from 1948. There is no armed forces deployed in Baluchistan to handle the civilians. There are no rapes and civilian Killings in Baluchistan like Kashmir and finally, People in Baluchistan are not from a different religion (cult) as in India and Kashmir. Kashmir is supposed to be a Muslim state as per its population cult. And if you claim you can give rights and peace to Muslims & Hindus at the same time, I have some objections on that. What you are doing with Muslims in India, we have a great idea of that.
If you want to criticize in Pakistan’s internal affairs (Like Baluchistan) we also have right to talk about referendum for Khalistan and rest separatist movements inside India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separatist_movements_of_India
Whatever happens India will not let go of Indian Kashmir and also Pakistan will not let go of Pakistan Kashmir. thats a fact.
regarding Bangladesh, we did went to war, and a new free country was born. the people of BD didnt want to stay with pakistan. They dont want to go back to pakistan even now. that is a fact. religion is not a binding factor. that is another fact.
regarding baloch/NWFP, you misunderstand me. I dont want them to breakaway from pakistan. ONE rival is better than SIX.
India being a SECULAR country, we are Indians first, Hindus, Muslims, Xtians, Jews, Sikhs, Parsis, etc later. so just because ones religion is different, doesnt mean they have the right to break my country.
We know pakistan has been supporting the separitist movement inside India for long, pouring money and men. instead, if they had established more engineering schools, well, the country would have developed a lot. only having madrasas will have more future talibans to bomb your towns and cities, not ours.
as pak has been supporting separitist rebels in india, we should also support separitist rebels in pakistan. that is expected isnt it.
Thank you for your comment.
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NICE STORY OF KASHMIR
Last night I had a dream. I saw UN General Secretary Ban ki Moon has come to visit Kashmir. He is flanked by Indian Prime Minster Manmohan Singh and former CM of the State Farooq Abdullah prompting an estimated 1 million people to take to streets to protest against Indian policies in Kashmir. Many carried banners and placards calling the latter duo with some really bad names in Kashmiri. “Welcome to Kashmir, Mr. General Secretary,” Omer Abdullah said, shaking Moon’s hand in Srinagar.
“You are going to love it to be here. Your appreciation rating is much higher here than us.
Kashmiris completely love you.”
“Oh Yeah,” Moon said.
The UN bigwig saw some placards reading ‘Ban Ki Moon didn’t come soon but his eye caught an old torn placard,
probably used in several protests earlier that read: ‘No ban on Ban—Let Him Come.’
“May I know what has happened here before?” he asked Farooq.
The General Secretary also sought the reason over why 1 million of people are rioting and calling Sing and Farooq with bad names.
“I am afraid to see what they would do to you two if they loathed you so much,” he said to his hosts.
“Don’t take it the wrong way,” Farooq replied. “It’s only 1 million Kashmiris. Rest of all love us absolutely. They are also going to vote for us to power. ”
Another thing Moon realized was that most of the troopers have crossed their service ages as compared to protesters who are mostly young to which Farooq explained that life expectancy rate of Kashmiris have gone down over the years, except for politicians. “Since we spend most of the time in New Delhi. And security forces
in the valley rest assure things,” he said.
“Oh I see, Poor Kashmiris,” Moon shrugged.
Seeing the protesters getting angry, Moon said, “So you think you are safer in your own backyard and no one will harm you. Ha?”
“Very safe Mr Moon,” Singh chipped in. “As long as we have two guns for every rioter.”
Between the conversations, the visiting dignitary heard some loud chants in native language.
“Could you please interpret it for me” Moon said when he heard ‘Kathi Chue Sani Gobrau’.
“They are saying ‘where have all the sons gone’,” Farooq replied.
“But where have all the sons gone?” Moon sought the answers.
Omer explained that most of them have crossed over LoC before the cross-LoC trade started and rest of them are seeking jobs in the Indian cities, without telling their parents.
“But our state police is quite active. All the youngmen would be chased up very soon,” Omer said.
The tallest among the troika scratched his skull as Omer winked his right eye towards the calm Turbanator. After two days, in New Delhi, speaking to some Hindi news channels, Singh said that the reports of 1 million protestors were largely exaggerated.
“I am contradicting that 1 million people were on Srinagar streets,” he said. “But it was a smaller section of youth who had some resentment.”
“Mr Singh, they were 1 million souls,” Moon tried to correct the Indian PM.
Farooq replied quickly, “Mr Moon what looks like a million march to you is just a usual thing there. In an hour, two or three miscreants can assemble million-strong crowd in valley. You know what I mean, No?”
“O, that way every Kashmiri is a greatest convincer living. Isn’t it,” Moon replied, while Farooq pulled back his chair feeling sullied, but he kept his smile till the end of press conference. Among the protestors a 25-year-old resident of inner city, Nikke Koutur, who had helped organize the rally was seemingly unhappy after the protest march.
He said that the protests would have been more successful if all banners and placards had been spellchecked. Infact, one protestor, shown on a news channel, carried a sign that said, “We want Azad (former CM),”. And another displayed,
“In Dependence– only solution”. Also, one of the placards read,” Pebble site”.
“You see what they really intended to mean Mr Moon,” Singh said to the visiting personality. And inspite the huge protests in valley, Moon’s visit was framed as a big success that will consolidated India’s position at the international level.
“In honour of your last name, we have sent a mission to Moon,” Singh told Moon.
And after biding him the final good bye, Singh whispered in Farooq’s ears, “Mission ‘Moon’ accomplished” while both guffawed to the top of their lungs.
(courtesy: sources)
Dear readers read Alasteir Lamb and Victoria Shofeild or christopher thomas–you will come to know how Kashmir was forcibly taken over…
Also turn over some pages of your history book and see how the then PM of India Nehru promised Kashmiris plebiscite…
some jokers would now confuse it with elections,,but dude, in assembly election you have 18 local parties–congress, NC, pdp and bjp ..etc..etc—and in plebiscite the options as promised by Mr Nehru were
‘ what ever Kashmiris wish to choose–India–Pak–or Independence……
I hate doubkle standards. ALL pakistani and even Indian muslims have them. If you want kashmir as part of pakistan because of unfinished agenda of partition, please take it. jammu and ladakh will remain with India. But we CAN do to 12% muslim minority in rest of India EXACTLY what happened to 10% hindu minority in kashmir. Please dont tell me they are outsiders, they are as much kashmiri as muslims. You gonna stop me, in my home state of maharashtra? The stronghold of shivsena? You gonna take back all muslims from India? THINK?
India has occupied Kashmir by its military might but it cannot silent the just voice of Kashmiris.Kashmiris will fight with tooth and nail to throw out these savages who have inflicted countless wounds on this occupied nation.